Oh, we be puttin' on sack cloth and throwing ashes in acts of despair. Imagine! We could have had some voters for a song. (Via Roxanne)
I've been telling my Democrat brother for over a year now, "We're here--Bush voters who aren't social conservatives--and you could have had us for a song. We're on special, we're on markdown, we come cheap. But instead of wooing us, you sat around and complained that Kerry wasn't left enough. You put Howard Dean on the DNC. You defended people who said and did indefensible things, out of a much stronger sense of party loyalty than I've ever seen displayed on the right. You could have guaranteed your party would run this country for the next 16 years if you'd only moved to the middle, if you'd only been willing to concede that the non interventionist policies America pursued in the decade leading up to 2001 did not work in her interests."
Roxanne, while not necessarily agreeing with the above comments, throws out
I think progressives who are seriously interested in working to change things, need to listen up. The last election was very close. Unless you've got some magic beans that'll grow brand new Democrats (who will show up and vote) next time around, we may need to do something to bring people like Ilyka around. Or not.
Where to start?
Myself, I could give a flying fuck at a rolling donut for this crowd. I'm sick and tired of being repeatedly bitch slapped for completely imaginary and totally overblown events which don't even have anything to do with the price of tea in China.
Let's start with just the fragments of Ilyka's comments. In particular, the notion that "if you'd only been willing to concede that the non interventionist policies America pursued in the decade leading up to 2001 did not work in her interests". Now I'm sure everyone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't really think I would characterize the 90's as a decade dedicated to non interventionist policies. I'm certainly not going to rattle off all of the interventions that happened during that decade (hey, Bosnia, Haiti just to name a few). But I will just point out that Bush, in his 2000 presidential campaign, was running on an isolationist, non interventionist platform. And so when some idiot tells me that the democrats could have had them for a song if only they would have been more interventionist - well, I just want to scream and bitch slap these jerks until they figure out just exactly what reality we really live in.
And bitching about Howard Dean? What the fuck is that all about? As far as I can tell, the only thing these sniveling twits have against Howard Dean is the fact that he stands up and says that the Iraq war was a stupid, ill conceived action which has been prosecuted by a bunch of Morons. It's people like Michelle and Iyaka who - because they are so personally invested in the Iraq war - twist whatever Dean says into an attack on the troops, or proof of his unwavering support of Al Qaeda. I mean, as far as Dean's actual record goes, he's a middle of the road centrist.
And who in the hell are the people we defended who "did and said indefensible things"? Just who in the hell is Iyaka talking about?
And Michelle's post - well, I won't even go there. Roy at alicublog has the definitive post on that subject.
The election was four months ago. At that time, her reaction was a long harangue at liberals ("You ran your own campaign, one filled to the brim with bile and acidic spittle and you wonder why you feel so black today?"). Later she wrote, "Just because a state is blue on a map, Ted [Rall], does not mean that we, the red zombies, are not here. We are. We exist. And for the next four years Horton the elephant is watching over us." Later she wrote, "How the Democrats, the left, the liberals, whatever they want to call themselves, have suddenly decided it's ok to pass around the jugs filled with smug hatred, to lick their lips as they drool the slobbering bigotry all over themselves, to become everything they always claimed they weren't." Later she wrote... well, you see how it goes.
I would like to be more sympathetic. I'm told we need to be reaching out. But I know that if the Democrats nominated Jesus Christ Almighty in 2008, and Jeb Bush's people told this woman that JCA is soft on terror and unfit for command, she'd fall for that, too. And blame us afterwards.
You know, there's the old saying about why people rob banks - i.e. they are where the money is. Quite frankly, going after people like Michelle and Iyaka is like robbing a popsicle stand - you ain't going to get much bling bling for your effort.
If you really are serious about getting more democrats, then how about attacking the real source of the problem.
More surprising perhaps are the large numbers (albeit not majorities) who believe the following claims not made by the president and which virtually no experts believe to be true:
- 47 percent believe that Saddam Hussein helped plan and support the hijackers who attacked the U.S. on September 11, 2001 (up six percentage points from November).
- 44 percent actually believe that several of the hijackers who attacked the U.S. on September 11 were Iraqis (up significantly from 37% in November).
- 36 percent believe that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when the U.S.invaded (down slightly from 38% in November).
Another interesting finding is that only 46 percent believe that Saddam Hussein was prevented from developing weapons of mass destruction by the U.N. weapons inspectors, a fact which most reports now support.
Maybe it's just me, but it seems that if you have these kinds of percentages of your population believing completely whacked ideas. . . well, to my simple mind it's not going to matter what the fuck positions you take unless you mind meld with the political forces that are the ones who are benefiting from these completely whacked beliefs.
And that's what the intelligentsia's grand strategy is? If you can't beat 'em, join 'em? What a bunch of absolute morons. And these people wonder why we lose? They can't even diagnose the problem correctly. Worse, they think the cure is to get in bed with the disease.
So, I say fuck 'em. Fuck 'em all. If winning means getting a lobotomy and joining in the fantasy world these people live in, then it's simply not worth it to me. In the long run, we'll all be dead anyway. And if these self centered jerks who were pretty much wrong about everything are complaining their "bold roll of the dice" didn't work out the way they thought it should - well, I'm not going to sit around and listen to them blame us for their decisions and I'm certainly not going to sit around and listen to them whine about some bizarro world that they paint which portrays the democrats (and Howard Dean!) as the sole source of their problems.
Fuck 'em.
Update: See also Ian's most excellent post on the same subject over @ BOP - make sure to read the comments. I just love it when Democrats with a spine start spanking.